![]() ![]() The Do you know the meaning of the two finger gesture? thread was originally posted on in the Using Tarot Cards board, and is now archived in the Forum Library. I have a full day ahead and I sit here laughing uncontrollably with tears streaming down my face. This is what I get for reading the boards in the morning. In the 20th century, it was abbreviated even further to just one finger, but the meaning stayed pretty close to the original. Then again, any text that incorporates the term 'Cosmic Giggle Factor' can't be all wonrgĪnd to complete the legend, since English longbows were made of wood from the Yew tree, the archer's craft was referred to as "plucking the yew" and hence the 2-fingered gesture was interpreted as saying "pluck yew" This page has some comments on it, although they apparently don't know about the Belgians inventing the V-sign, either. And also I tend to see it as seperate from V-signs, victorious or insulting, but apparently that's just me. EDITED TO ADD: It was that book, but it doesn't say any more about it than that it's a Druidic blessing appropriated by Christians.įor some reason that gesture always causes an almost visceral reaction in me, and not a positive one, either. Might have been in the Patterson book with the Davis Celtic Tarot, I'll check and then edit this post. I remember reading somewhere that this gesture was one of those instances of the Christian church appropriating an originally Pagan sign of Druidic origin. Which fingers is it? I know that the fore finger and the middle finger are the asthame fingers that us pagans use to draw the protective circle. (Moonbow*, thanks! I do have nickname associated with what you said, care to guess?) Of course I could be barking up the wrong tree, but it could be a connection. OK, that sign he uses (yes, we know), it originates from the Temple in Jerusalem (ah, there is a Jewish connection), it was a priestly sign. Right, you know Spock, from Star Trek (yes, yes, Hap, we know, get on with it!). However the two finger gesture, as an insult (from meaning they that were whole, and able to attack) is still uniquely English.Īs for the relevance to Tarot? I don't know, sorry! Since then it has become more widely adopted. Winston Churchill reversed this sign, and used it as a 'V for Victory' symbol during WWII. The hand would have the outside towards the enemy, the inside facing you. In later times it became a symbol of insult to stick up two fingers at your enemy. The French therefore would take their revenge (and stop the archers) by chopping off the index (or fore) and middle fingers of the right hand of captured English archers.īefore a battle, to show the French that they were still intact, and able to assault the French, the English archers would stick up these two fingers at the French armies. In fact, despite numericaly smaller armies the power of the English archers allowed the English to defeat the French time after time. ![]() The English archers were the best in the known world, and highly feared by the French. The idea of sticking up two fingers is English from Medaevil times.
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